Rock, I am sorry I asked him to try the chip, we get those that run fine with the chip, then when they change something on their car and have problems, or something goes south on the car, they want to blame the chip, he was running too lean. He has a problem with that intake, MAF or front O2 sensor. you know yourself that the VR6 will run lean if the intake flows more air. THe stock chip might run in the window, but when he goes to GIAC, I think he's going to have the same problems. We'll see. Meanwhile he's bashing us as is Lordvardahl, BTW do a search on him.
He had bad problems with his car, Garrett actually troubleshot it and worked on his POS car. He is one of the biggest whiners on the vortex.
As for the Viper, they can always buy a BMC and loose power for the same price.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=250347 They should consider themselves lucky that they are getting a GB price as I generally only do this until there are enough running them to comment and gains are proven which they have been. I will see to it that the Viper is the same price for our Canadian friends. I will have them shipped directly from within Canada.